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Heavy gun system which strikes enemies with a powerful canister charge. What it lacks in accuracy it more than makes up for in firepower. Deadly for any opponent at short range

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— in-game description

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Purchase Information
In-Game Cost	580,000
IRL Cost^?	None
Experience^?	7
Type
Hardpoint^?	Heavy
Tier^?	I
Faction^?	TBA

Base Statistics		Attributes
Level	5	Kinetic
Damage	8,640 per round	Manual
Range	500 meters	Automatic
Reload	10 seconds	FWR
Capacity	Clip: 5 rounds Burst: 9 rounds
Unload	Clip: 5 seconds Burst: 9 seconds

Introduction

The Thunder is a close to mid-range (up to 500 meters, with a 75-meter optimal range) heavy kinetic shotgun.

Strategy

This weapon is essentially a massive shotgun and is best used in close range combat, and is the heavy version of the Gust and Storm.

Despite a maximum range of 500 meters, an optimal range would be about 75 meters or less, due to the wide spread of the shells. Below 100 meters a Thunder can quickly eliminate or at the least maim a heavy robot. The Thunder is especially effective against heavy robots due to their large hit area, which allows more of the shell fragments to hit.

Even at low levels, the Thunder is a force to be reckoned with, but when upgraded to higher levels it can do appreciable damage from even 300 meters. With a fire rate of 1 RPS and the ability to reload while firing, it can do very heavy damage in a brief amount of time. Due to its RWF system (reload while firing), it can continuously fire significantly more rounds than its full magazine.

However, because the robot must get close to an enemy to do significant damage, it will be vulnerable to enemy fire at longer distances. Therefore, it is vital to take advantage of cover as much as possible to minimize damage while getting into a good engagement range (about 200 meters and under if possible.)

Because the Thunder is a close-range gun, it is most commonly seen on fast moving medium robots since they can quickly close range. Commonly seen setups are the Thunder Schutze, Thunder/Orkan Boa, and Pinata/Thunder Vityaz. However, Carnage and Lancelot possibly are the best bots for Thunder, due to their power and rush abilities. Thunders can also be seen on Raijins, due to its Bastion ability and large health pool.

It is not uncommon to see Thunders equipped on heavy robots like the Leo or Natasha for use as heavily armored shotgun platforms which have the staying power to hold off multiple enemy robots. Even though heavier robots generally have more HP and power, they also tend to have much lower movement speeds. This makes closing distances to actually do damage a problem, although this is somewhat negated (in the case of the Leo) by their very high HP, and with more than one heavy slot, moderate damage.

The Thunder is also an effective shield-breaker. This is because it can damage energy shields even at 400-500 meters due to bullet spread, and does double damage to physical shields as it is a kinetic weapon.

However, the Thunder is quite a rare sight in higher leagues (Diamond and above) due to it significantly under performing for a heavy weapon class and role (for example Avenger has similar damage, but higher accuracy and range). While it remains effective in lower leagues, it isn’t advised to use Thunders beyond Diamond, as other weapons such as the Avenger, Glory performs far better.

Pros and Cons

Pros

Very high damage at close range
Destroys energy shields easily (can deal significant damage even from a distance)
Double damage to physical shields
High damage per shot and good rate of fire results in very good DPS
Reloads while firing

Cons

Ineffective in mid-long range combat (300 meters or more)
Cannot penetrate any shield
Shells spread and can cause the shotgun to deal less damage than intended (especially against small robots)

Mark I Statistics

Purchase Information

Level	Cost	Damage	Burst Damage	Burst DPS	Continuous DPS
5	580,000	8640	77760	8640	4320

Upgrade Information

Level	Cost	Time	Damage	Burst Damage	Burst DPS	Continuous DPS
6	400,000	8 hours	9520	85680	9520	4760
7	800,000	12 hours	10480	94320	10480	5240
8	1,500,000	16 hours	11520	103680	11520	5760
9	3,000,000	20 hours	11640	104760	11640	5820
10	5,000,000	1 day	13920	125280	13920	6960
11	8,000,000	1 day 2 hours	15360	138240	15360	7680
12	13,000,000	1 day 4 hours	16880	151920	16880	8440

	Cost	Time
Totals	31,700,000	5 days 14 hours

The damage column shows the damage from all 16 particles (combined) fired from each round (out of 9 rounds)

Mark II Statistics

Purchase Information

Level	Cost	Damage	Burst Damage	Burst DPS	Continuous DPS
1	500	16880	151920	16880	8440

Note: Level 12 Mark I is required to enhance (purchase) to Mark II.

Upgrade Information

Level	Cost	Time	Damage	Burst Damage	Burst DPS	Continuous DPS
2	250,000	3 hours	17200	154800	17200	8600
3	500,000	5 hours	17440	156960	17440	8720
4	1,000,000	8 hours	17840	160560	17840	8920
5	3,750,000	15 hours	18080	162720	18080	9040
6	3,750,000	15 hours	18400	165600	18400	9200
7	3,750,000	15 hours	18720	168480	18720	9360
8	3,750,000	15 hours	19040	171360	19040	9520
9	3,750,000	15 hours	19360	174240	19360	9680
10	3,750,000	15 hours	19680	177120	19680	9840
11	3,750,000	15 hours	20000	180000	20000	10000
12	3,750,000	15 hours	20240	182160	20240	10120

	Cost	Time
Totals	31,750,000	5 days 16 hours

The damage column shows the damage from all 16 particles (combined) fired from each round (out of 9 rounds)

Accuracy By Distance

Below is the average percentage (%) of particles (per round) that hit an enemy robot (if aimed directly at) at specific ranges.

Range	Accuracy %
50 meters or less	100%
100 meters	85%
150 meters	48%
200 meters	27%
250 meters	19%
300 meters	15%
350 meters	11%
400 meters	8%
450 meters	8%
500 meters	4%

Note: The numbers shown are based on an average-sized robot being targeted. Due to this, these percentages can be higher or lower depending on the size of the targeted robot.

Update History

Version	Changes
5.8.0	Damage increased by 9%
4.8.0	Total Upgrade Time: 6 days 22 hours⟶5 days 14 hours
4.7.0	Damage increased by 5% Total Upgrade Time: 8 days 9 hours⟶6 days 22 hours
4.5.0	Total Upgrade Cost: 63,400,000 Ag⟶31,700,000 Ag Total Upgrade Time: 16 days 15 hours 48 minutes⟶8 days 15 hours
4.0.0	Total Upgrade Time: 16 days 16 hours⟶16 days 15 hours 48 minutes
3.2.0	Damage reduced by 5%
3.1.0	Damage reduced by 5% Now does double damage to physical shields, along with kinetic weapons
2.5.0	Name shortened from "ECC Thunder" to "Thunder"
1.3.0	Sound effects when shooting and reloading added/changed
0.9.1	Accuracy decreased by 29%
0.9.0	Damage increased by 11.5%
0.6.3	Price changed from Au to Ag Effective range from 300 meters to 200 meters
0.6.1	Accuracy increased by 15%
0.3.0	Weapon was added to the game

Poll

Trivia

This weapon can fire while reloading, similar to the Orkan, Gekko, Pinata, Pin, Trident, Exodus, Flux, and Tulumbas.
The name Thunder may refer to the booming noise it makes when fired.
Despite having a 5-round capacity, the Thunder can fire up to 9 rounds in succession when fully loaded without more than a 1-second delay. This is due to the Thunder's ability to fire while reloading.
There is a cylinder in the back of the Thunder that spins while reloading. This is probably a pan magazine.
The Thunder ejects in and out of its slot while firing- occasionally a robot will become destroyed in the middle of this phenomenon, leading to an entertaining robot corpse with a Thunder partially ejected.
The Thunder used to have a prefix 'ECC' until it was removed in Update 2.5
Some players have been angered by several damage nerfs to the Thunder in recent updates. Despite this, it has gained the ability (along with other kinetic weapons e.g. Punisher) to do double damage to physical shields (e.g. Ecu).
This is the only heavy weapon to be weaker than one of its smaller counterparts (Storm)
A single shot from Thunder consists of 16 individual projectiles. Unlike other weapons with multiple projectiles, they are not considered separately in the damage table.
It works best with tanks bots with high hp pools so you can deal massive damage while taking minor damage.
When shot fired, two sides at back of the Thunder will open up and sparkle will appear between it.

Changes: Thunder

Revision as of 23:20, 26 July 2020

Contents

Introduction

Strategy

Pros and Cons

Mark I Statistics

Purchase Information

Upgrade Information

Mark II Statistics

Purchase Information

Upgrade Information

Accuracy By Distance

Update History

Poll

Trivia

Navigation

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+{{Quote|Heavy gun system which strikes enemies with a powerful canister charge. What it lacks in accuracy it more than makes up for in firepower. Deadly for any opponent at short range}}
+<br />
+{{Weapon Page Top
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+|Prev Unit = Molot T
-{{Quote| One of the most effective weapons at close range. What it lacks in accuracy it more than makes up in firepower.}}
-==Thunder ([[Heavy]] [[Gun]])==
+|Name = Thunder
+|Next Unit = Gekko
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+|Cost = 580,000
-The Thunder is essentially a massive shotgun and is best used in close range combat. Despite a maximum range of 500m, an optimum range would be about 200m or less, due to the spread of the bullets. Below 200m an Thunder can quickly eliminate or at the least maim a [[Heavy Robot|heavy robot]]. The Thunder is especially effective against heavy robots due to their large hit area, which allows more of the shell fragments to hit.
+|Costicon = {{Ag icon}}
+|Level = 7
+|Tier = I
+|Hardpoint = [[Heavy]]
+|Img = [[File:Thunder.png|400px]]
+|WeaponLevel = 5
+|Damage = 8,640 per round
+|Range = 500 meters {{info-Tooltip|Range Tooltip}}
+|Reload = 10 seconds {{info-Tooltip|Reload Tooltip}}
+|Capacity = Clip: 5 rounds<br>Burst: 9 rounds {{info-Tooltip|Capacity Tooltip}}
+|Unload = Clip: 5 seconds<br>Burst: 9 seconds
+|Icn1 = Kinetic
+|Icn2 = Manual
+|Icn3 = Automatic
+|Icn4 = FWR
+|Icn5 =
+|Icn6 =
+}}
+{{Tocright}}
-Even at low levels, the Thunder is a force to be reckoned with, but when upgraded to higher levels it can do appreciable damage from even 300m. With a fire rate of 1 RPS and the ability to reload while firing, it can do very heavy damage in a brief amount of time.
+==Introduction==
+The '''Thunder '''is a close to mid-range (up to 500 meters, with a 75-meter optimal range) [[heavy]] [[kinetic]] shotgun.
+==Strategy==
-However, because the robot must get close to an enemy to do significant damage, it will be vulnerable to enemy fire at longer distances. Therefore, it is vital to take advantage of cover as much as possible to minimise damage while getting into a good engagement range.
+This weapon is essentially a massive shotgun and is best used in close range combat, and is the heavy version of the [[Gust]] and [[Storm]].
+Despite a maximum range of 500 meters, an optimal range would be about 75 meters or less, due to the wide spread of the shells. Below 100 meters a Thunder can quickly eliminate or at the least maim a [[Heavy Robot|heavy robot]]. The Thunder is especially effective against heavy robots due to their large hit area, which allows more of the shell fragments to hit.
-Because the Thunder is a close-range gun, it is most commonly seen on fast moving medium robots since they can quickly close range. Commonly seen setups are the Thunder [[Schutze]], Thunder/[[Orkan]] Boa and [[Pinata]]/Thunder Vityaz. However [[Carnage]] and [[Lancelot]] possibly are the best bots for Thunder, due to their power and rush abilities.
+Even at low levels, the Thunder is a force to be reckoned with, but when upgraded to higher levels it can do appreciable damage from even 300 meters. With a fire rate of 1 RPS and the ability to reload while firing, it can do very heavy damage in a brief amount of time. Due to its RWF system (reload while firing), it can continuously fire significantly more rounds than its full magazine.
-It is not uncommon to see Thunders equipped on heavy robots like the [[Leo]] or [[Natasha]] for use as heavily armored shotgun platforms which have the staying power to hold off multiple enemy robots. Even though heavier robots generally have more HP and power, they also tend to have much lower movement speeds. This makes closing distances to actually do damage a problem, although this is somewhat negated (in the case of the Leo) by their very high HP.
-==Trivia==
-*This weapon can fire while reloading, similar to the [[Orkan]], [[Gekko]], and [[Trebuchet]].
+However, because the robot must get close to an enemy to do significant damage, it will be vulnerable to enemy fire at longer distances. Therefore, it is vital to take advantage of cover as much as possible to minimize damage while getting into a good engagement range (about 200 meters and under if possible.)
-== Update History  ==
+Because the Thunder is a close-range gun, it is most commonly seen on fast moving medium robots since they can quickly close range. Commonly seen setups are the Thunder [[Schutze]], Thunder/[[Orkan]] [[Boa]], and [[Pinata]]/Thunder [[Vityaz]]. However, [[Carnage]] and [[Lancelot]] possibly are the best bots for Thunder, due to their power and rush abilities. Thunders can also be seen on Raijins, due to its Bastion ability and large health pool.
-.6.1
+It is not uncommon to see Thunders equipped on heavy robots like the [[Leo]] or [[Natasha]] for use as heavily armored shotgun platforms which have the staying power to hold off multiple enemy robots. Even though heavier robots generally have more HP and power, they also tend to have much lower movement speeds. This makes closing distances to actually do damage a problem, although this is somewhat negated (in the case of the Leo) by their very high HP, and with more than one heavy slot, moderate damage.
-Accuracy increased by 15%.
+The Thunder is also an effective shield-breaker. This is because it can damage energy shields even at 400-500 meters due to bullet spread, and does double damage to physical shields as it is a kinetic weapon.
-.6.3
+However, the Thunder is quite a rare sight in higher leagues (Diamond and above) due to it significantly under performing for a heavy weapon class and role (for example [[Avenger]] has similar damage, but higher accuracy and range). While it remains effective in lower leagues, it isn’t advised to use Thunders beyond Diamond, as other weapons such as the [[Avenger]], [[Glory]] performs far better.
-Price changed: Au (Gold) -> Ag (Silver).
+==Pros and Cons==
-Max distance at which damage is most effective: 300m -> 200m.
+'''Pros'''
+*Very high damage at close range
+*Destroys energy shields easily (can deal significant damage even from a distance)
+*Double damage to physical shields
+*High damage per shot and good rate of fire results in very good DPS
+*Reloads while firing
+'''Cons'''
-.9.0
+*Ineffective in mid-long range combat (300 meters or more)
+*Cannot penetrate any shield
+*Shells spread and can cause the shotgun to deal less damage than intended (especially against small robots)
+==Mark I Statistics==
-Damage increased by 11.5%.
+{{Weapon Upgrades
+|weapon-mode         = fwr
+|mark-2              = false
+|base-level          = 5
+|rounds              = 5
+|burst-rounds        = 9
+|reload-time         = 10
+|burst-time          = 9
+|level-05-cost       = 580,000 {{Ag icon}}
-.9.1
+|level-05-time       =
+|level-05-damage     = 8640
+|level-06-cost       = 400,000
-Accuracy decreased by 29%.
+|level-06-time       = 8 hours
+|level-06-damage     = 9520
+|level-07-cost       = 800,000
-.3
+|level-07-time       = 12 hours
+|level-07-damage     = 10480
+|level-08-cost       = 1,500,000
-Sound when shooting and reloading added/changed.
+|level-08-time       = 16 hours
+|level-08-damage     = 11520
+|level-09-cost       = 3,000,000
-.5
+|level-09-time       = 20 hours
+|level-09-damage     = 11640
+|level-10-cost       = 5,000,000
-Name shortened.
+|level-10-time       = 1 day
+|level-10-damage     = 13920
+|level-11-cost       = 8,000,000
-{{weapon-upgrades
+|level-11-time       = 1 day 2 hours
+|level-11-damage     = 15360
+|level-12-cost       = 13,000,000
+|level-12-time       = 1 day 4 hours
+|level-12-damage     = 16880
+|total-upgrade-cost  = 31,700,000
+|total-upgrade-time  = 5 days 14 hours
+}}
+*The damage column shows the damage from all 16 particles (combined) fired from each round (out of 9 rounds)
+==Mark II Statistics==
+{{Weapon Upgrades
+|weapon-mode         = fwr
+|mark-2 = true
+|base-level          = 1
 |rounds              = 5
+|burst-rounds        = 9
 |reload-time         = 10
-|unload-time         = 5
+|burst-time         = 9
-|cycle-time          = 10
-|level-05-cost       = 580,000
+|level-01-cost       = 500 {{Au icon}}
-|level-05-damage     = 8,432
+|level-01-time       =
+|level-01-damage     = 16880
-|level-06-cost       = 800,000
+|level-02-cost       = 250,000
-|level-06-time       = 17 h
+|level-02-time       = 3 hours
-|level-06-damage     = 9,264
+|level-02-damage     = 17200
-|level-07-cost       = 1,600,000
+|level-03-cost       = 500,000
-|level-07-time       = 1 d 9 h
+|level-03-time       = 5 hours
-|level-07-damage     = 10,176
+|level-03-damage     = 17440
-|level-08-cost       = 3,000,000
+|level-04-cost       = 1,000,000
-|level-08-time       = 1 d 18 h
+|level-04-time       = 8 hours
-|level-08-damage     = 11,184
+|level-04-damage     = 17840
-|level-09-cost       = 6,000,000
+|level-05-cost       = 3,750,000
-|level-09-time       = 2 d 2 h
+|level-05-time       = 15 hours
-|level-09-damage     = 12,288
+|level-05-damage     = 18080
-|level-10-cost       = 10,000,000
+|level-06-cost       = 3,750,000
-|level-10-time       = 2 d 13 h
+|level-06-time       = 15 hours
-|level-10-damage     = 13,504
+|level-06-damage     = 18400
-|level-11-cost       = 16,000,000
+|level-07-cost       = 3,750,000
-|level-11-time       = 3 d 11 h
+|level-07-time       = 15 hours
-|level-11-damage     = 14,832
+|level-07-damage     = 18720
-|level-12-cost       = 26,000,000
+|level-08-cost       = 3,750,000
-|level-12-time       = 4 d 18 h
+|level-08-time       = 15 hours
-|level-12-damage     = 16,304
+|level-08-damage     = 19040
+|level-09-cost       = 3,750,000
+|level-09-time       = 15 hours
+|level-09-damage     = 19360
+|level-10-cost       = 3,750,000
+|level-10-time       = 15 hours
+|level-10-damage     = 19680
+|level-11-cost       = 3,750,000
+|level-11-time       = 15 hours
+|level-11-damage     = 20000
+|level-12-cost       = 3,750,000
+|level-12-time       = 15 hours
+|level-12-damage     = 20240
+|total-upgrade-cost  = 31,750,000
+|total-upgrade-time  = 5 days 16 hours
 }}
+*The damage column shows the damage from all 16 particles (combined) fired from each round (out of 9 rounds)
+==Accuracy By Distance==
+Below is the average percentage (%) of particles (per round) that hit an enemy robot (if aimed directly at) at specific ranges.
+{| class="update_table" border="0" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="1" style="width:250px;"
+|-
+! scope="col" |Range
+! scope="col" |Accuracy %
+|-
+|50 meters or less
+|100%
+|-
+|100 meters
+|85%
+|-
+|150 meters
+|48%
+|-
+|200 meters
+|27%
+|-
+|250 meters
+|19%
+|-
+|300 meters
+|15%
+|-
+|350 meters
+|11%
+|-
+|400 meters
+|8%
+|-
+|450 meters
+|8%
+|-
+|500 meters
+|4%
+|}
+Note: The numbers shown are based on an average-sized robot being targeted. Due to this, these percentages can be higher or lower depending on the size of the targeted robot.
+==Update History==
+{| class="update_table" border="0" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="1" style="width:500px;"
+|-
+! scope="col" |Version
+! scope="col" |Changes
+|-
+|[[Updates#Update 5.8.0|5.8.0]]
+|Damage increased by 9%
+|-
+|[[Updates#Update 4.8.0|4.8.0]]
+|Total Upgrade Time: 6 days 22 hours⟶5 days 14 hours
+|-
+|[[Updates#Update 4.7.0|4.7.0]]
+|Damage increased by 5%<br />Total Upgrade Time: 8 days 9 hours⟶6 days 22 hours
+|-
+|[[Updates#Update 4.5.0|4.5.0]]
+|Total Upgrade Cost: 63,400,000 Ag⟶31,700,000 Ag<br />Total Upgrade Time: 16 days 15 hours 48 minutes⟶8 days 15 hours
+|-
+|[[Updates#Update 4.0.0|4.0.0]]
+|Total Upgrade Time: 16 days 16 hours⟶16 days 15 hours 48 minutes
+|-
+|[[Updates#Update 3.2.0|3.2.0]]
+|Damage reduced by 5%
+|-
+|[[Updates#Update 3.1.0|3.1.0]]
+|Damage reduced by 5%<br />Now does double damage to physical shields, along with kinetic weapons
+|-
+|[[Updates#Update 2.5.0|2.5.0]]
+|Name shortened from "ECC Thunder" to "Thunder"
+|-
+|[[Updates#Update 1.3.1|1.3.0]]
+|Sound effects when shooting and reloading added/changed
+|-
+|[[Updates#Update 0.9.1|0.9.1]]
+|Accuracy decreased by 29%
+|-
+|[[Updates#Update 0.9.0|0.9.0]]
+|Damage increased by 11.5%
+|-
+|[[Updates#Update 0.6.3|0.6.3]]
+|Price changed from [[Au]] to [[Ag]]<br />Effective range from 300 meters to 200 meters
+|-
+|[[Updates#Update 0.6.1|0.6.1]]
+|Accuracy increased by 15%
+|-
+|[[Updates#Update 0.3.0|0.3.0]]
+|Weapon was added to the game
+|}
+==Poll==
+{{Poll}}
+==Trivia==
+*This weapon can fire while reloading, similar to the [[Orkan]], [[Gekko]], [[Pinata]], [[Pin]], Trident, Exodus, Flux, and [[Tulumbas]].
+*The name Thunder may refer to the booming noise it makes when fired.
+*Despite having a 5-round capacity, the Thunder can fire up to 9 rounds in succession when fully loaded without more than a 1-second delay. This is due to the Thunder's ability to fire while reloading.
+*There is a cylinder in the back of the Thunder that spins while reloading. This is probably a pan magazine.
+*The Thunder ejects in and out of its slot while firing- occasionally a robot will become destroyed in the middle of this phenomenon, leading to an entertaining robot corpse with a Thunder partially ejected.
+*The Thunder used to have a prefix 'ECC' until it was removed in Update 2.5
+*Some players have been angered by several damage nerfs to the Thunder in recent updates. Despite this, it has gained the ability (along with other kinetic weapons e.g. Punisher) to do double damage to physical shields (e.g. Ecu).
+*This is the only heavy weapon to be weaker than one of its smaller counterparts ([[Storm]])
+*A single shot from Thunder consists of 16 individual projectiles. Unlike other weapons with multiple projectiles, they are not considered separately in the damage table.
+*It works best with tanks bots with high hp pools so you can deal massive damage while taking minor damage.
+*When shot fired, two sides at back of the Thunder will open up and sparkle will appear between it.
+==Navigation==
+{{Units}}
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