Talk:Hydra/@comment-31187322-20180513061723/@comment-32253008-20180531185037

Getting out classed is different to getting countered. Outclassing means being more powerful in what you are meant to be doing. Say a fury dragoon on a match with no raijins around, will do better than any other dragoon build, including a raijin dragoon. This means the fury has OUTCLASSED every other dragoon build. However in a 1v1 between a fury dragoon and a raijin dragoon, the raijin will obviously win and COUNTER the fury. This applies to the lancelot as well, on a normal match it (and most other brawlers) would outclass the raijin but the raijin would (sometimes) counter the lance, based on the situation. If a thunder raijin spawned right next to the lance, then yes, the lance is screwed. But in a normal situation the lance could simply outrange the raijin, and end up killing it. If ur going to run a thunder raijin to hopefully get close to a brawler or if ur going to use a midrange raijin to hopefully counter a fury or a butch, ur not very smart. In close range the raijin is a huge target so if ur going to attack the lance (for example), the team is going to see 250k hp and they will attack u either with lots of orkans or just outrange you, and if that doesnt happen, you wouldn’t do as well because a lance outclassed the raijin in brawling. Similar thing with a ranged raijin build, but your less likely to be attracting as much attention but if the other team isn’t running many furys or have little range, you won’t do aswell as you would have done in a fury. I only used fury and lance as an example, this could apply to other bots aswell.

And to talk about climbing. Most situations where I’ve tried climbing in a raijin either in a test server or another game mode where I had access to a raijin, climbing was painfully slow. So if you think your being helpful to your team by camping on top of a building out of sight of the enemy with 2 thunders go ahead (sarcasm).

So yes since the raijin works well in a VERY small number of situations yes, I think it’s a bad/useless robot. If I had one which I happily don’t, maybe I would run it just to troll, because unfortunately it’s not particularly good in any role.