Talk:Yamantau/@comment-30540716-20161212023802/@comment-27346978-20161223041657

2 pinata pattons still would not be enough to take out a Carnage.... unless of course, your pinatas are higher levels than I think they are (6-8?).

the problem is, once you have both shot your patton death buttons, you now have to wait for around 16 seconds to reload, and in that time, the Carnage will be able to take out at least one of you (assuming that the Carnage can aim), even with only one ECC.