Talk:Griffin/@comment-30051005-20160924041543/@comment-28314772-20160926011407

Agreed, you can't do much better than a thunder pinata Leo while spending only silver, and it's definitely not the best setup out there. Silver only won't cut it anymore anywhere above low silver tier, and you will need at least a few gold and WSP weapons to stay competitive. If you are using any heavy, you can be matched into the top tiers, and the thunder and pinata are the only close range weapons that are useful up there.