Talk:Noricum/@comment-28912339-20171027023249/@comment-30076690-20171029164610

when i first ran a spiral patton, you could actually knock down a carnage's shield, and keep it down - by firing a single spiral at a time, you released a stream of missiles where the first one or two would knock down the shield, and then the final two would hit the carnage.

and, of course, you can still target griffins and furies (for champ), or other bots.

but they aren't terribly effective ._.