Talk:Raijin/@comment-30076690-20170513170629/@comment-31269503-20170514081207

Well, that is VERY arguable. Let's take Thunder\Pinata Leo, for example.

It all depends on the condition. If you put both bots on a center of a Yamantau, start from 600m and Raijin won't need to move, and Leo can't hide - then without a doubt Leo would be dead 8 shots from a Raijin (~10 seconds) later, for the lvl8 bots

However, if you take Dead city, where Leo could hide between Pinata shots, then it would take only 4 shots for Leo to destroy Raijin, and still 8 shots for Raijin.

Wait, there's more. If we take lvl12 bots\weapons then it's even worse for Raijin.

Leo will destroy shields with just two salvos, and third one will deliver death blow, while Raijin still need 7 DEAD ACCURATE shots, which is pretty impossible with Thunder.

But usually you can run, especially from enemy in Bastion mode. So, shoot salvo, hide for 15 sec, shoot again.

If cover is not an option - go up to 300m, shoot salvo, pedal back. Thunder at 300m is shit, and 3xPinata still do it's maximum damage.

Even better, equip Leo with Trident, shoot from 600m, then again at 300m. You will need only 3 full salvos.

So, the ONLY winnable solution for Raijin is the following:

Both bots are stationary at ~50 meters, Leo can't walk and Raijin has it's shields mounted. Which is biased towards Raijin, because "being stationary" is actual a handicap for having a shield.

Previous example with Fury vs Raijin is VERY realistic, though.