Talk:Griffin/@comment-26289935-20170802104101/@comment-30937612-20170802163007

Alias, that is very situational and as long as you can surprise a griffin. If you cannot, or if you are in an open space (Canyon, Yamantau, Shenzhen, Springfield) then thunder carnage does not have many chances against almost any griffin setup (keeping distance with molot / punishers, PDB Griffin melts a carnage down, DB griffin can keep firing while keeping distance, etc.) BUT, if a Griffin lands near a hungry carnage in close range, then griffin has almost no chance. I parked my lvl 10 thunder carnage for the time being for that reason.