Talk:Ember/@comment-32253008-20180529232259/@comment-34462850-20180530034910

Either way it is no shock that a Ember Lancelot is going to beat a Lancelot with no Ember (in a brawl), no matter the configuration, all the Ember Lancelot has to do is backpedal.

The Redeemer needs a buff, it's not doing much better than a Dragoon at close range, and the Dragoon is meant to be a mid-range weapon.

If you nerfed the ranged of the Ember to lets say 300m, it would then be totally outclassed by the Exodus. If the Redeemer was buffed, the Redeemer would be more effective against non-shielded or Ancile opponents, and the Exodus currently does better against non-shielded and physical shielded opponents (albeit less range).

Fast moving robots are extremely hard to hit the the Ember (especially Dash Bots).

Lastly, its a heavy weapon, most robots that can mount a heavy weapon are slow.