Talk:Raijin/@comment-33413589-20171019131437/@comment-30076690-20171026231246

okay, cut the insults... and profanity... (editing is encouraged!)

RDBs, like most WR players, are not necessarily intelligent. Sure, they can play, but they tend to go for the first thing they see (that they think won't get them killed attacking). And while one RDB salvo won't kill you, it still hurts.

For climbing, i specifically am referring to situations where the raijin's ability to climb allows it to get from point A to point B faster. It requires knowledge of where to go, but there are some situations - such as the one i described on valley - where climbing an obstacle is faster than going around it. This is also true for getting out of the middle of canyon. Furthermore, i have been having good luck climbing in custom games recently - this may be applicable elsewhere.

i agree that raijin's mobility is poor. suprisingly, its mobility isn't bad compared to bots such as the leo, and it is more mobile than the fury or natasha. But what i specifically stated was agility - what i'm trying to say is that, like fujin, raijin can weave about faster than most bots of its type. It's not much, but it actually does work.

all bots are situational, and all bots have a situation in which they can be destroyed. For example, springfield if red team controls the hills, while blue controls the city. you have an orkan haechi, and the opposing team has two camping trebuchet butches. what can you do? not much. Part of the trick is recognizing situations in which your bots are effective, and using them. Also, as i have said, the strength of dash bots is their ability to pick and choose targets. They can also choose situations - or, they can see what they're going into and choose whether to do so or to not. Dash bots are very good at choosing their battles.

I will reiterate that the raijin is an excellent WP (basically silver) substitute for a fury (if, say, you have no gold ;-;), though the natasha is better as prep for a fury (more similar playstyle/weapon distribution/etc).

to HDIOS - the big reason a rdb griffin is a threat to a zeus raijin is target lock. a fury can lock on and backpedal, but a raijin has to either remain still while locking on (in bastion), or backpedal while locking on and then enter bastion, in order to engage with its full firepower. Of course, a raijin could outrun the griffin, and thus never be hit too hard, but that would be time consuming. Everything is related to time - how long you take to get places, how long it takes to kill something, how long it takes to be killed. In higher leagues things appear to be more offensively oriented.

no, i don't plan to get discord at this time. i may consider it in the future.

and of course... fury doesn't have the new cool skin.