Talk:Zenit/@comment-33235335-20180109141302/@comment-28912339-20180114231201

"Whereas the opposition here say that they are not stupid, just not top-meta."

i suppose ure interpreting stupid as ineffective, and if so, then ure not entirely correct, its going both ways:

"but usually they end up not being offensive enough and you can overwhelm them, for me."

"but that is not related to the main debate here, which is whether or not artillery is effective by itself."

given the lengthy argument (and by extension, nuance) provided by highly distorted image, then this is clearly no longer just a black and white issue, thus, making my comparison pertinent and, of which, ure on our side.

Furthermore, those making the positive claim are, in general, throwing far more assertions than the opposition.