Talk:Doc/@comment-31772912-20170610180811/@comment-31269503-20170611003605

Carnage is a decent Leo killer. The BEST outcome for Leo is about 10~30% hp left after the clash.

And funny enough Thunder+Pinata Leo in my experience is a better counter than Magnum+Thunder.

Usually Carnage try to close up to you, so you want to go even closer and unleash entire salvo, so it would be over faster. Every second is ~32K damage to your Leo.

And while Magnums might hurt Carny from the 350m, then would be pounding, minorly, for a long period of time, and Leo most likely be dead by the time it would actually hurt Carny.