Talk:Griffin/@comment-50.186.233.93-20160213011720/@comment-27724086-20160213021011

Firing while jumping on a Griffin works with either Mag/Tarans, Pin/Orkans, or Mag/Orkans --- all combos will cause a massive hit.

The one that works best depends on how much time you have to hit the target during and after the jump. If you are jumping just to hit them on the top of your jump then coming back down to safety, then the Pin/Orkan will deliver the highest damage.

If you needing to fire while in the air but will land in front of them then the Mag/Taran will allow you to continue firing after you land.

Of course, you could split the middle and do the Mag/Orkan route so that you can handle both situations nicely.

As far as the Quad Mag Patton - this is just my opinion, but I'd not recommend this bot. The Patton is a slow bot with kinda low health and putting a short range weapon on it that can't destroy an enemy in a instant puts you harm's way for too long without a way out. The fix to this slow speed is to use a tri mag Gepard - its speed will avoid fire that would otherwise hit on the slower Patton. From my experience, a quad Pinata Patton is the better way to do - a bot that has to be taken seriously and handled very carefully.