Talk:Spectre/@comment-34739213-20180218171211/@comment-34739213-20180306014014

Great points Alias. In a Hydra duel, I have no idea whether the Spectre's increased firepower (plus speed, when against Griff, Doc, and Haechi), would overcome the Spectre's 110,000 max health.

I can't recall seeing a $hocktrain fired near a bot in stealth. They can't be targeted, so I wouldn't think the bounce would get them, but Pixonic does many goofy things in WR which defy logic.

An instant kill of a Spectre requires 110,000 damage, if the Spectre is at level 12. That is more fragile than most bots being played, but it's still asking a LOT of an instant kill. The bots most likely to pull it off would be a 3 Treb Fury, or a 4 $hocktrain Spectre. Neither is very common.

The Spectre (and Inquisitor) can take damage while in stealth from descend. The problem is that weapons won't lock on, and weapons requiring a lock won't fire at all. A ramp could let a player send unguided shots in the general direction of a jumping Spectre, but it would be hard to set up fast enough, unless the Spectre was jumping repeatedly from the same spot. Before getting my Embers, I used to send Thunder blasts towards bots in stealth. I never killed one, and usually couldn't see substantial damage when their health bar was visible again after stealth. Maybe a 4 Gust Patton or a 4 Storm Spectre could get it done. For most gameplay, an enemy in descend is avoided; since they'll keep stealth for a few seconds after landing, and they likely used descend to come kill some bots.