Talk:Carnage/@comment-33425281-20171205130900/@comment-26289935-20171205133602

For the Raijin, Zeuses (most recommended), Tempests, Thunders (only in BR) or Tridents.

For the Carnage, Thunders (most recommended), Embers, Tridents or Zeuses.

Eventually you will get both. Raijin is more powerful and solid, but Carnage is faster.