Talk:Shredder/@comment-34819558-20180807100826/@comment-36001938-20180807105057

Nice.

I would like to point out that you are flat out comparing cycle damage of the Shredder and Punisher and ignore the fact that the shredder fires and reloads _much faster_ than the punisher.

The Shredder easily fires two cycles in the time the punisher unloads (15.6s vs. 3.2s+5s+3.2s+5s) and is ready to fire again for a third unload just as the punisher empties and reloads for 10s.

The total damage done is hence not so different and I would not call it "completely outgunned".

Definitely, I would choose a punisher as brawling weapon. I see no downside however in swapping one punisher out for a shredder on a Griffin for example.