Talk:Carnage/@comment-49.177.132.29-20160808073535/@comment-28822847-20160808152813

The Carnage is a "good buy" with that WSP considering that the bot is flexible enough to use at mid-range and close range.

I used the Carnage originally as a mid-range support bot with dual Zeus cannons on it - that was when its base speed was 10kph slower than it is now. After the speed buff to 40KPH a few weeks ago, the Rush speed is now 66KPH and it has changed how this bot works. I switched to dual Thunders on this bot and it can easily bust up every bot (including the Lancelot) in one Rush strafing run (2 runs if you can't get to the side of an Ecu-type shield bot or inside of an Ancile type shield bot).

Pilots will say the Carnage is "glass cannon" - which is true if you do not use it correctly (you must always be moving in this bot and know the limitations of the weapons the red bot shooting you is carrying). I came up through the ranks using a Thunder Schutze - which at max speed of 58 KPM goes MUCH slower than the max Carnage Rush speed of 66KPM - and I can use a Thunder at high speed extremely well (and move to avoid counter fire at the same time). So if you think of yourself as an Ace Pilot and dog fighter, then the Thunder Carnage is the bot for you. However, make a mistake (like not planning your exit before you Rush or firing the Thunders too soon on Rush) and you'll be dead faster in this bot than a Rhino or Fujin, but do it right and you can kill 5-10 bots with this single bot even in top tier.

Check out the YouTube videos on the Thunder Carnage. This bot is a great top tier bot and a good place holder for that Lancelot, since the Thunders take FOREVER to upgrade to level 12 (but they arguably the best weapon worthy of level 12) and you'll have 2 of them for 2 Lancelot! Lastly, your skills on the Thunder Carnage transfer to the use of the Lancelot, as they are used on Rush similarly (but not completely, as the Lancelot is much slower on Rush and you'll not be able to circle and opponent).