Talk:Zeus/@comment-33029662-20170907021014/@comment-30076690-20170907231503

actually, taran fujin can cause a lot of trouble for zeus raijin - fujin is faster. however, unless fujin has a covered line of approach, it would probably be best to avoid the confrontation.

while griffin can jump into combat, yes, that doesn't always mean it has the jump on its target - if the target is aware of it, it may be jumping to its own death.

prime example: thunder carnage vs PDB grif.