Talk:Raijin/@comment-33159198-20171012065516/@comment-31269503-20171014122844

@Highly distorted image of something, @Maxyman:

I recently moved to champs to see for myself how is it going up there. And it's a bit complicated. There are ~6700 champs on iOS, and while a lot of them uses Vityaz, Zenit and stuff, it's clear that they are not competitive players at all.

So there are two points of view here:

1) Darkangel is 100% correct in terms of what is THE BEST weapon in term of EFFECTIVENESS for the highest skilled players. So, if your goal is to beat the best of the best - his pieces of advice are clearly the best ones to follow.

However.

2) While I don't like playing game only to be the best out there, and you most probably know it, so I think any weapon will do if you are having fun, we got some weapons that are working better at lower tiers. As an example, we could have Rogatka. It's clearly not packing enough firepower or durability for the best of the best fights, but I'd pick Orkan Rog over DB Griff any day of the week in Silver tier. The reason being - Rog is a lot faster bot, and firepower is enough to kill anybody in the silver, while getting all the beacon gold.

So here you have it, there are some weapons that are better in lower tiers.

But it's not that easy. There are some weapons that are not providing you with enough damage to score damage and silver, and it's not good enough for beacon capping, though you will get no Gold either.

Those are Spirals, Zenits, Raijins, brawling Leos and Natashas, Destriers, Gareth, Vityaz, Galahad and a lot more. If you have enough resources, having fun playing those weapons and have no intentions to go to the very top - those are fine.

However if new player struggles to get at least 200m Silver for upgrades, you are doing really bad job for him recommending this stuff.

Please notice that DarkAngel is saying "for champs" and "in champs" in almost every post. So he's indicating the target audience. Most of your posts are written in such style that people could get a false feeling of those robots\weapons will give clear advantage on the field when it's not.

More than that, Zenit, Raijin, Leo, Fujin are VERY expensive to upgrade, which is not a good thing for a beginner player, too.

Please don't give expensive situational advice to new players, they would be disappointed with a game if they follow such advice.