Talk:Bot Setups/@comment-31959494-20171205205842/@comment-28305210-20171208225236

You are making the assumption that a Haechi will engage at 350m. I doubt it. The Haechi can stay behind cover for as long as it wants to or use cover to get closer. The Haechi has the choice on when, where, of even if it wants to engage the Fujin. That isn't true the other way around. The Fujin is reactive.

Your example of a Haechi with no dashes is equivalent to a Fujin with no shield. Either way, defeating a bot with their primary defences down is not a good measure of whether a bot is a top choice for champion league. Poor logic indeed--yours.

As for the damage issue, the Fujin needs 6 seconds to deal lethal damage where the Haechi needs only 3.5. The entire encounter should take roughly 7 seconds including the dashes from a realistic starting range. This is enough time for the Fujin to deal lethal damage but the firing position is extremely unfavorable for the Fujin. The zig zag dash approach and ultra close range are very difficult to hit reliably with plasma especially accounting for lag.

As for the Zeus, please don't put words into my mouth. There are big differences with a Zeus Fury. The damage is roughly 1/3 health in 1 second from 600m. That is darn near impossible to avoid. You can't dash into range like with a Fujin. You only need a moment of exposure to lose 1/3 of your health and can't dash in to finish it off. Likewise, the zig zag approach doesn't fool the Zeus lock on.